I'm having a DAH moment...My question to you is now answered I think on your templates posts..Bless you..I was looking for the shapers there!! GIRL, You make life soooo much more FUN!! Love these!! And thank you, thank you, thank you for being sooooo helpful with the concepts I'm trying to present!!! You really go with them!!! Now I don't have to rack my brain with dementions for putting them in this format you created!! WOW!!